Don't even go there, okay? Some have gotten closer than you know. And also, I agree with Rawr. This is the debate section after all.

Ultimately, most of the arguments against choice have a base in religious views. In cold logic, it should be the choice of the mother. If she wants to abort, let her. It depends on when you decided that life actually starts. Conception or birth?

Religion in just a type of morality set in stone.

Ultimately, the arguments are about your moral code; Be it religious, or your own.

Cold logic is throwing away morality; which this whole question is based on.

This post was last modified: 10-09-2008 02:14 PM by Rawrmander.

Every time you spray bleach on your toilet, you murder millions of living species. Life is a loose term.

I acutally dissagree with you 100% on the highlighted point. I think that a father has all the right to claim a child as well as any mother. (part of the reason for so much child care). no man cannot force a woman to have an abortion when an unwanted pregnancy occurs.(part of the reason for so much child care). a man has the right to fight in court to make the woman carry out the pregnancy and give the child to the father. and for my view of abortion i think its wrong. the person has a right to choose, that person will deal with the reprocusions. if i were to ever get a girl pregnent i would fight to keep the child, but if you got a girl/yourself pregnent then you have the right to choose what you may.

The thing to note about abortion is does the mother have a valid reason to abort the embryo/fetus?

Obviously if she says "I'm doing this because I like to kill children" that's completely not legit.

What if the mother's health was at risk when she had the baby? What about the baby's health? Would the parents be able to provide the baby its necessities in their current economic/emotional state? Was the fetus caused by rape? Was it caused by incest?

Those are legit reasons.

Last week a pro-life group had some pretty disturbing images on my campus' Free Speech Zone. They were trying to link abortion with genocide.

IT'S NOT GENOCIDE!!

There will always be embryos and fetuses. We can't stop them from happening unless no one has sex ever again. This is not Nazi Germany implementing the "Final Solution". This is not the 1850's where disobedient slaves were lynched. This is not Rwanda where one tribe tried to eliminate another. THAT'S genocide.

Pro-choice and proud!

I totally agree!

Well u dont know the pain a women suffers having a baby that she wants, but do u imagine the even greater pain she would have, having a baby she doesn't want (because of a rape and incest). But if its some girl that was stupid enough to not wear protection, and now wants to get rid of a baby, that's not right, becuz you're ending someone's life becuz of your own mistake.

I'm for pro-choice and all, but there should be limitations because if they do it all willy-nilly have sex, and then i'll just get an abortion kind of thing, that would be kinda depressing.

QFT!!!!

I Agree!

Finally, somebody who isn't a slave to their religion.