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Mario and Sonic mains...advice plz?

Ive been playing mario since the original and i'd say im pretty decent with him. Now I want to know how you guys use mario and your opinions from people that main as him. I normally go combing at the beginning of a match and continue with powerful hits at the end. But that combo doesn't seem to work that well for fast and powerful characters such as Fox and other speedy guys. So im gonna take another look at mario and reinvent his moveset. Maybe use his cape more.

All of the above goes for sonic too.

So wut do you guys think? Should Mario use speed or tactical movements when brawling?
Should Sonic go for Hit and Run techniques or use combos more?




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RE: Mario and Sonic mains...advice plz?

Sonic should definitely go for hit-and-run techniques. He's got the speed for it. After they're fairly well damaged, he should then close in for a smash attack.

With Mario, you might wanna hang back and let the opponent come to you. Deal plenty of smash attacks when they get close and uses throws to keep them at bay. Also, try to reflect their projectile attacks. When they run into to attack, use the cape to flip them around and then nail them with a C-stick forward smash.



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Yeah thats what ive been thinking of doing. Im more of an aggressive player and go straight for the opponent and start combos and such. Mario doesnt seem suited for that. Hes really good at keeping fighter off the edge tho. yeah sonic is good with speed. His forward A attack is really good and works wonders with the Short hop.




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The cape is Mario's greatest strength. My old roommates hated it. Combo against slower characters, dodge and counter against fast ones. Don't be afraid to get some air (his back A attack has some range, forward A knocks them down but requires timing). His forward smash has some reach and power, so get a good one in every now and then.


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Actually I kinda realized now why I had such a tough time beating my bro, Captain Falcon when he used C.F as a main. I guess i didnt use the cape enough. Now im gonna implement it more along with combos and smashes. My sonic needs more practicing tho.




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RE: Mario and Sonic mains...advice plz?

One tip I know is.

SHDF

Short hop double fireball. lol.




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Spam the fireball to annoy approaching opponents and score some free damage.

Use the cape as an offense as well as a defense. Run up to your opponent and swing, even if you don't turn their attack around, you'll hurt them a bit, and probably confuse them.

His fAir is useful in all scenarios, not just as a meteor smash. It adds an element of surprise when you use it in the middle of the stage.

Don't use FLUDD. Sad

Your cape helps you recover! Like Marth's sideB used to in Melee. Just in case you didn't already know. I didn't for a loooong while.

But all that together into a strategy? I prefer to keep Mario aerial, save the fireball smash. Spam fireballs and cape as a mobile defense wall, and don't use the giant taunt unless you have plenty of time to shrink when they respawn.


edit: As for Sonic? Drop him, and pick up someone else. Smile



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skylinedfire Wrote:
Spam the fireball to annoy approaching opponents and score some free damage.

Use the cape as an offense as well as a defense. Run up to your opponent and swing, even if you don't turn their attack around, you'll hurt them a bit, and probably confuse them.

His fAir is useful in all scenarios, not just as a meteor smash. It adds an element of surprise when you use it in the middle of the stage.

Don't use FLUDD. Sad

Your cape helps you recover! Like Marth's sideB used to in Melee. Just in case you didn't already know. I didn't for a loooong while.

But all that together into a strategy? I prefer to keep Mario aerial, save the fireball smash. Spam fireballs and cape as a mobile defense wall, and don't use the giant taunt unless you have plenty of time to shrink when they respawn.


edit: As for Sonic? Drop him, and pick up someone else. Smile


Yeah the Fair is a really good move but i use it only when i see an opening. I used it alot in melee because it knocked them up a good bit, no matter what their damage % was. In brawl it doesnt really knock them up...but daaaayyyuumm lol. Im really gettin the hang of his meteor smash. Ive knocked out sum good competition with it at least 5 times this week.

Yeah every mario user needs to use the cape as a recovery. Its essential for every mario user.

And does the Short hop double fire ball really work Cloud?

And Sonic is actually a Giant Killer. His moves always seems to damage the bigger and taller guys much easier. Oh come on. There has to be at least one decent sonic user on Wiiloaded.com...unless im the only one...




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RE: Mario and Sonic mains...advice plz?

I'm not sure I heard of it working never tried it lol.




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RE: Mario and Sonic mains...advice plz?

I'm still undecided on FLUDD. I'm heard it both ways. I'm throwing it in every now and then, but I haven't quite gotten the hang of it yet. Forced movement is good, in theory, right?


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The Fludd Only works when it is used against the opponents 3rd jump. Thing is when your facing an experienced player they usually wait till they are below the edge so they will grab it instead of landing next to Mario. I would rather take the risk of gettin down their and Cape their 3rd jump. Man people get so pissed when i do that. Lmao.




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too bad FLUUD doesnt give dmg...

btw, we still need to play each other



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Lol.Yeah your right. I cant play right now since...well studying and college...yeah it sucks. But I can play tommorow in the AM and PM. What ever works for you pesticide since i only have 1 class tomorrow.




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For Sonic I'd recommend keep him on the move. If your Sonic controls the pace of the match then your in a good position. Hit and run, build the damage up and then finish them.

As for Mario, he is the middle ground fighter. Okay in the air and okay on the ground. I usually find myself not using FLUDD. Unless I accidentally forget its there and instead think I'll be using Mario's spinning attack... stupid FLUDD from a stupid game.


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FLUDD stops energy projectiles too, I learned recently.



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Really? Hey thats cool. I have a match in this link since I dont know how to embed videos into the site. Its of me and a user on SmashRoyale.com and I am facing a fellow clan member named Ivan. I end up losing both matches but I only want you guys to critique the Mario vs Falco Match.Since there was lag this isnt my true potential with either Mario and Sonic. W_Rulez can vouch for me. In the sonic match I made assloads of mistakes and the lag completley threw my game off. I was facing him from Nevada and i am in Georgia. There was bound to be lag since its more than 500 miles. Well....have at it! And......dont be too cruel in critiqing the Mario match. Toungue


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The first match would hurt lol.




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Cloud Wrote:
The first match would hurt lol.


Huh? I say i did decently with my 1st match with him.




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no im talking about the way you lost, if you would have recovered you would have won, he would fall first lol.




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Oh. Lol. Yeah i saw that. But hey...it was a hell of a match. Lol. That was a WTF moment. ^_^"




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