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Microsoft took some criticism in the beginning of the Xbox 360's life because of their choice to continue to support the standard DVD format for their game titles. They defended themselves saying that the DVD storage medium was more than enough space for upcoming games with their new compression techniques, but now it seems that the format's limitations have causes a negative effect on one Xbox 360 title.

Bizarre Creation says that the DVD format is too small to fit all of the features they wanted to include in Project Gotham Racing 4. A Bizarre Creation's staff member says:

"You won't see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn't a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD."

A post on Bizarre Creation's forums explains that the fix for this was to create different lighting models for each locale depending on weather. So, in other words, each city will only have one time-of-day setting.

Before you throw out the 'two disc' question, another staffer explains:

"Having the game spread across two discs isn't an option for a number of reasons. Sorting out gameplay both in single and multiplayer where you always have to swap discs around would be difficult, and detrimental to the flow of the game. Also, having two discs puts the price of manufacturing up, and that's one we'd have to discuss with the publisher."

"As it stands, we've got the best of all options. We've got tonnes of cities, the best lighting effects we've ever done, and weather which dramatically changes the look of the cities too. And it all fits on one disc."


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There are a lot of amazing 360 games that are on 1 dvd, so I wonder if the sense of speed used in PGR4 has something to do with why the game is so big.  That's just a thought, because honestly I have no idea.
damn microsoft use the hd-dvd drive lol even tho i dont have it.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Microsoft did put an HD DVD drive in a future version of the 360...that is if that standard comes out on top. It really makes sense, and with the pricing of the 360 technology going down very day, it will really help to keep this sort of thing with PGR4 from happening more often. Plus it will greatly extend the life of the 360. I'm not sure if a USB2.0 connection with an external HD DVD player would be sufficient to play games from.
lol. not gonna happen.
wait i read they said they can fit the entire game on a disk

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/08/01/...are-false/
you know gft...it seems as though you're looking for anything that downgrades the 360 and promotes Blu-Ray...

On topic: Well thanks to HaloJames we can now conclude that DVD's will be efficient enough for at least another year.

gft77 Wrote:
Before you throw out the 'two disc' question, another staffer explains:

[b][i]"Having the game spread across two discs isn't an option for a number of reasons. Sorting out gameplay both in single and multiplayer where you always have to swap discs around would be difficult, and detrimental to the flow of the game. Also, having two discs puts the price of manufacturing up, and that's one we'd have to discuss with the publisher."

Umm, GT2 did it just fine on the playstation, but then again I don't know what PGR series is like.

NinjaRooster Wrote:
you know gft...it seems as though you're looking for anything that downgrades the 360 and promotes Blu-Ray...

On topic: Well thanks to HaloJames we can now conclude that this thread is a dud.


I think there are many times you look for any reason to argue. I posted the source, and I think if you read what I wrote in that first posting, I complimented the 360 on having some amazing games and actually gave a hypothetical reason why I thought the game needed so much space.

If you don't like the info, then that's too bad. I didn't write the original article. You can take it up with the source.

not trying to star an argument here gft. I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway.
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