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Agreed. Maybe Nintendo may give us an answer to why they insist on delaying titles for a such a period of time...
LOL, perhaps it always takes that long, and 3rd party developers hold back thier NTSC counterparts? Therefore, Nintendo is doing us a favor? har har har
So it takes around 3 months extra or so to convert a game to PAL?
Well, what is there to do? PAL had extra vertical lines of resolution, and less frames-per-second. I think that's all.

Brawny Wrote:
Well, what is there to do? PAL had extra vertical lines of resolution, and less frames-per-second. I think that's all.


and even then most developers just put black bars where the extra lines are and then slow the whole game down (or if they're half-decent programmers, just put a different VSync).

They usually blame it on translations (because EU releases have at least 6 other languages usually)

Well there shouldnt be a problem with the Australian and UK versions then because they are the same language.

TheEgg Wrote:
Well there shouldnt be a problem with the Australian and UK versions then because they are the same language.


Yeah, but the EU launch is always the same date.

I still don't get why Australia has to wait though :/

I think UK and AU should become part of NTSC. Seriously, would it matter THAT much?
Well the original reason for the different standards was relying on the power grid....but with d4rk's comment, I dunno.
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes only worked on 60hz TVs. And that's the NTSC standard isn't it?

*isn't sure*
Yes, it is. Well, it's more like 59.6....but you know..
Still, MP2: Echoes is proof it can be done. Because as I've said MANY times it was out in PAL format mere weeks after its NTSC release.

Nintendo is holding it back this time, its the only reason I can see. Because I doubt very much they've had to cut back staff considering how much money the Wii is making for them.
Agreed. There's no reason for holding back so long.

LemonManX Wrote:
I think UK and AU should become part of NTSC. Seriously, would it matter THAT much?


The main difference is between colour decoding and the size of the picture.

PAL has better colour and a higher resolution than NTSC (Which is why older American sitcoms look like shit on PAL TVs)

TBH changing to NTSC now would be pointless, worldwide HDTV is just round the corner.

my friend has a 60hz version of GOW and of dead rising for his 360 and they play fine on a 50hz tv...
Ok, let's look at it like this:


Alright, so here we have the number of Wii's sold. That sure is a lot of Wii's sold isn't it? Of course it is, that's not what we're here to talk about though. Let's take a closer look now.



Now, see the 2 figures insquared in Black that's North America and Japans figures alone. Which equal up to 7.92 Million of the 10.91 Million sold. Now let's take a look at this one last figure.



Now, only 3 Million Wii's have been sold in 'Other' regions. This is EVERYWHERE else. That's U.K, Australia, all of Europe, everywhere! Now, let's look at this from a business stand point.

The NTSC regions are racking in 7.92 Million Wii's, let alone all the games they're buying for their Wiis. Then Nintendo looks at the PAL regions which aren't even all of those 3 Million Wii's and the notice something, they aren't selling as much their.

So when it all comes down to the grand scheme of things, Nintendo is going to see that their main target and grandest audience is the NTSC regions as they can make more money from them. They're a corporation fellas, it's about money. You can't succeed without the proper fundings and the right amount of money.

Now your probably going to reply to this and say: "Ya but we can't buy them, it's too expensive here! Yeah! and we don't get them on time!". Then alright, go talk to them, but don't blame them for everything at first. Raise a petition or something to have prices lowered and move on from there. If that happens then hey, maybe more people will buy the Wii and games in those other regions and Nintendo will turn their heads and see that PAL's there too. But if you come on too strong at first, what if Nintendo ditches you? That would suck WAY more.

So there's my thoughts on the matter, I think it really sucks (the situation your in now) but these are the facts that I see.

Alex51011 Wrote:
Ok, let's look at it like this:


Alright, so here we have the number of Wii's sold. That sure is a lot of Wii's sold isn't it? Of course it is, that's not what we're here to talk about though. Let's take a closer look now.



Now, see the 2 figures insquared in Black that's North America and Japans figures alone. Which equal up to 7.92 Million of the 10.91 Million sold. Now let's take a look at this one last figure.



Now, only 3 Million Wii's have been sold in 'Other' regions. This is EVERYWHERE else. That's U.K, Australia, all of Europe, everywhere! Now, let's look at this from a business stand point.

The NTSC regions are racking in 7.92 Million Wii's, let alone all the games they're buying for their Wiis. Then Nintendo looks at the PAL regions which aren't even all of those 3 Million Wii's and the notice something, they aren't selling as much their.

So when it all comes down to the grand scheme of things, Nintendo is going to see that their main target and grandest audience is the NTSC regions as they can make more money from them. They're a corporation fellas, it's about money. You can't succeed without the proper fundings and the right amount of money.

Now your probably going to reply to this and say: "Ya but we can't buy them, it's too expensive here! Yeah! and we don't get them on time!". Then alright, go talk to them, but don't blame them for everything at first. Raise a petition or something to have prices lowered and move on from there. If that happens then hey, maybe more people will buy the Wii and games in those other regions and Nintendo will turn their heads and see that PAL's there too. But if you come on too strong at first, what if Nintendo ditches you? That would suck WAY more.

So there's my thoughts on the matter, I think it really sucks (the situation your in now) but these are the facts that I see.


Now I would just like you to consider that America is a large country and does have a big fan base for gaming and such.

Does the UK have any major gaming events or anything? nope.

And yes as you mentioned there is the price but lots of american items are cheaper. Lets just be happy the pound has power over the dollar.

That's what I'm saying. They need to try and get prices on the games lowered at least a little in the PAL territories.
So what? Who even cares if the Wii has sold less here! Considering the crap Nintendo gives us its no wonder. If I was an every day gamer looking to purchase a console and saw the Wii as it was at the moment there is no WAY I'd buy it.

I'd go for a 360 or a PS3 in an instant.

Unforunately I jumped the gun and bought a Wii before they became worth their money in the PAL regions.

It wouldn't hurt for Nintendo to be as on the ball as third parties, but hey... I guess they enjoy being hated in PAL. Except for their rabid fanboys.
The wii is all about the rabid fanboys and fangirls and fanmas and fanpas.

@ Alex, yes, I will say that. Toungue It's BECAUSE of their lack of caring (or insert other appropriate word) that it's not selling as well.

Wait....W(hy)TF am I defending PAL? LMFAO
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