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sc7 Wrote:

z6joker9 Wrote:

sc7 Wrote:

Doesn't change the fact that iPods all suck.

I have been saying this all along, but in all fairness, it's not just iPods, it's Apple products in general. As a qualifier, I'll also note that if you are stupid, have money, and like to be babied with your electronics, told what you need, and appear to be hip only to be though of a sheep incapable of real technical savvy, then Apple is the perfect company to buy products from.

In other words, if you like to be told what you need and you enjoy a nice form factor and UI and you have no idea how limited or overpriced this stuff really is, and you don't want to know, then feel free to just ignore me and keep on keeping on.

OS X is a very nice OS, though.

I agree, if your definition of nice fits into my previous description of Apple products. The parts that bother me are the fact that Apple controls every part of their computers, hardware, software, and all. People that I described before should probably get Apple computers, because they make them dummy proof, trendy, and include a nice User Interface (OS X). The only problem that I have is that people assume they are trendy and tech savvy upon the purchase of an Apple computer, and will defend it to know end to justify going against the trends of society and spending way too much money for what they got.

I'll also point out that yeah, it's great that they have all of this storage space in a small mp3 player, but why in the world does anyone need to carry so much of their music collection everywhere they go? Aside from D4rk, how many people actually come close to filling up their iPod? If you are legally obtaining these songs, why do you pay $1 per track when you could use an alternate brand mp3 player and get a subscription service for under $15 a month that lets you download unlimited songs to carry with you?

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How would you possible think that you are tech savvy upon the purchase of an apple product?

Not attacking your argument....just wondering

sc7 Wrote:

Brawny Wrote:

and people who say i-pods look better.....you know you're just buying a case to put it inside anyways. Toungue

Exactly, there goes the benefit about how thing it is...

Radio is not useless, it's how I find some good new songs.

i never buy the cases Toungue

Ah, so then you take the scratch-prone "SLEEEEK" case into play.

One mishap by sticking your player with your keys in the same pocket, dayum you're screwed.

Brawny Wrote:

How would you possible think that you are tech savvy upon the purchase of an apple product?

Not attacking your argument....just wondering

I didn't say that I think it... I said people think it. I don't know why. Apple's brilliant marketing? Cost more, must be better argument? Holds my hand so I *feel* tech savvy while using it?

Brawny Wrote:

z6joker9 Wrote:

sc7 Wrote:

Doesn't change the fact that iPods all suck.

I have been saying this all along, but in all fairness, it's not just iPods, it's Apple products in general. As a qualifier, I'll also note that if you are stupid, have money, and like to be babied with your electronics, told what you need, and appear to be hip only to be though of a sheep incapable of real technical savvy, then Apple is the perfect company to buy products from.

In other words, if you like to be told what you need and you enjoy a nice form factor and UI and you have no idea how limited or overpriced this stuff really is, and you don't want to know, then feel free to just ignore me and keep on keeping on.

*worships joker*

Everything I've always felt, but put into words my eloquence can only dream of. XP

I have an 8 GB microphoto. Superior sound quality. And drag and drop >>>>>>> windows i-tunes

... How does the actual hardware affect it too much anyway? The iPod has an EQ (which I don't use anyway) and the crappy headphones aren't glued in.. so it's all up to how much you want to spend on headphones and if you've got the will-power to go into the options and change the import format to 192kbps AAC (anything higher is ridiculous unless you plan on hooking it up to a decent Hi-Fi - Then you use Apple Lossless).

And I quite like iTunes to be honest. Provided you disable CoverFlow, it has minimal impact on performance, and I like being able to easily share music across my network. Plus the ease of putting a CD into the drive and then plugging in the iPod in order to sync it is great. Clicking things is overrated ^^

The only thing I'd take from media player would be the toaster popups when in micro-mode. But then if I'm using litestep I can just use my iTunesStatEx plugin and put it into the taskbar. ^^

sc7 Wrote:

The iPods aren't > everything else. They run an unneccisarily bloated kernel for the job (Darwin is not meant for mobile platforms, trust me, the source was available for a long time, and I've looked at it).

They lack support the best, by far, lossy audio codec, and only iRiver has support. (Without modding the iPod). OGG Vorbis. OGG Vorbis is VBR by standard, and it's by far the best lossy audio codec, far more efficient than AAC or MP3, plus it's open source.

The screens also suck, as well as the scratchy surface.

Darwin isn't the kernel used for the iPod. It uses a propietory system designed by Pixo. Though... These new iPods could well run Darwin, I haven't researched it yet.

OGG can be used on iPod. Just install the iPodLinux kernel and then PodZilla. I never really liked vorbis though, primarily because of it's limited support with media devices.

The iPod's screen is a lot better than the competition. And I've yet to clarify it, but I believe the new iPod classic is 640x480. And the Zune's screen is nasty, It's too big for the resolution it's running at, Macroblocks show up way to easily.

Brawny Wrote:

and people who say i-pods look better.....you know you're just buying a case to put it inside anyways. Toungue

Also, I find the "rounded" zens are actually more comfortable in hand and pocket than the sharper, even if thinner, i-pods are.

I actually refuse to use one of those tacky cases. The slipcase it comes with is more than adequate. And while I've never had a Zune in my pocket, I've never found the iPod to be uncomfortable

z6joker9 Wrote:

why do you pay $1 per track when you could use an alternate brand mp3 player and get a subscription service for under $15 a month that lets you download unlimited songs to carry with you?

I like CDs ^^

i love my zen... i find it so much better than when i've used my friends iPod... and for a 4GB which only just doesnt fit all my music ( Sad

) i think its ok at about £70 rather compared to £200 odd for a stupid 130GB (seriously who has that much music that they are actually going to listen to)... and people say that the screen is too small, well if your buying it for music then you have to listen with your ears... not your eyes...

Ugh

joker Wrote:

agree, if your definition of nice fits into my previous description of Apple products. The parts that bother me are the fact that Apple controls every part of their computers, hardware, software, and all. People that I described before should probably get Apple computers, because they make them dummy proof, trendy, and include a nice User Interface (OS X). The only problem that I have is that people assume they are trendy and tech savvy upon the purchase of an Apple computer, and will defend it to know end to justify going against the trends of society and spending way too much money for what they got.

I'm quite aware of that. I hate the proprietary hardware lockdown, it's inexcusable, and the reason I stopped buying all Apple products. OS X is much more than a trendy/dummy proof OS. Sure, the GUI is nice, but most of it was designed for usability. Additionally, Cocoa is a rock solid API, and Darwin is a solid kernel. OS X is probably, IMO, the most well designed operating system available, and it's the OS of choice to write code on where I work. If you've ever gotten to play around with some of the scripting and darwin, it's some amazing stuff.

d4rk Wrote:

Darwin isn't the kernel used for the iPod. It uses a propietory system designed by Pixo. Though... These new iPods could well run Darwin, I haven't researched it yet.

I know that, for I unfortunately have a 5G 30 GB iPod. However, the new models (at least touch), run the same applications, therefore same OS, as the iPhone, which runs on a modified Darwin.

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OGG can be used on iPod. Just install the iPodLinux kernel and then PodZilla. I never really liked vorbis though, primarily because of it's limited support with media devices

I personally hate to do that, there's always a risk of bricking the device. And OGG is great, is just because it's open, no company wants it to be used.

sc7 Wrote:

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OGG can be used on iPod. Just install the iPodLinux kernel and then PodZilla. I never really liked vorbis though, primarily because of it's limited support with media devices

I personally hate to do that, there's always a risk of bricking the device. And OGG is great, is just because it's open, no company wants it to be used.

There is practically nil risk with iPodLinux, for using the restore function puts it right back to the factory settings

meh i changed my mind im just getting the new nano next week for my B-day Toungue

aww...but it's fugly.

go for the iPod classic. that doesn't look like a disproportioned tumor.

are u serious i love the new nano design Smile

It looks like it used too many steroids.

Some bits got bigger, some shrank

i want something small in my pocket Toungue

as if my PSP isnt a big enough MP3 player :O

I wait for them to show up at pawn shops, since I work at one, i get some really nice ones in. We get them almost new looking quite often. With our used prices on them plus my discount, I just wait for them to come here.

I have a black and blue nano (both 2nd generation) and enjoy them. I had a 60 gig but it only lasted a year before it started stopping by itself and not showing up in itunes. I think the hd on it was not happy with me.

I haven't decided if I want a new nano or touch yet. I will wait and see what comes to my shop first and buy them when i can Smile

My friend's brother bought a defunct i-pod, hooked it up to a 500GB internal harddrive mounted into a custom made (read, wood) case.

The mother is a effin' beast, but it's got about 20 full-length movies on it.

Don't ask about the details, I have no idea. Toungue

ipod touch? apple is running out of ideas o.0 its just like teh iphone except no phone n probly cheaper, but wit 160gigs its probably gunna cost alot so if it reaches like 350, ur better off wit the phone

yeah right a lot of ppl dont wanna pay $200 to end our current contract , $400 for a phone WTF mine was free plus the bill is outrageous i hear

The bigger the harddrive, the harder the fall. lol

One, that thing's gotta weigh a ton. (And I thought toshiba held the patent for dual-layer platters). Two, dropping your ipod (or gasp, taking it for a run....) would screw up 160 GB's. hahha

Brawny Wrote:

The bigger the harddrive, the harder the fall. lol

Yep, that's why on all my coding machines, I always as many HDDs at the lowest possible capacity I can buy.

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