How did the universe and life begin? Where did we all come from, and how/why do our organs work?
Why are we here?
Discuss
God Created the earth in 7 days.
I dunno the rest come from my faith/religion so yea.
We live in a ball of chaos full of morons who are so desperate to believe we are not alone and created by a higher being that they're willing to believe in silly invisible ghosts that dictate and watch over our lives. Some of those morons believe in such nonsense so much they're willing to kill for it. So life is about two things suffering and enlightenment.
God created....but exactly how, we are not at liberty to be sure of....
Summing up Galileo...the Bible answers some questions, science answers both. Sometimes there's an overlap, but not always. I believe evolution is God's tool for further creation, and the Earth, planets, stars, galaxies,were created over billions of years.
Who said that when God spoke, there wasn't a bang to coincide?
I dunno really. I go to Church and all but i am starting to loose my faith. As for the universe I honestly have no idea.
My balls created everything there was, is, and will be.
My balls created everything there was, is, and will be.
Truths. *creates a new religion called Ricky-ism*
In all seriousness, though, (it is my belief (I'm Catholic) that) God created the world in 7 days.
technically a deity could not be the how, but rather the why the universe began if that is what you believe. a belief of the existance or lack of a creation deity is quite w/o grounds and as such could not be considered as anything but purely speculative. even if a deity's actions were responsible, the laws of physics that are discovered would reflect the actions/decisions of said deity and as such when people refute science w/ religion (eg the world is only several thousand yrs old) they either do not worship a correct deity or they greatly misunderstand said deity (eg those 7 days in christianity could be billions of yrs... many christians claim the bible is largely metaphorical but then refute that ideology in cases such as this). i don't mean to pick on christians, as i know alot of rational christians, but they do tend to clash (almost always unprovoked) w/ science more than any other religion worldwide and as such were easy to use as an example.
most physicists would site the big bang model as the most likely beginning to the universe, although until the late 60's the steady state model championed by fred hoyle also garnered a good bit of support.
both? elaborate?
@ Snare....yeah, just like me. I was that age when things started to not add up. Those nice stories they tell you don't fit with the scientific evidence. My viewpoint takes general revelation (science) as an equal source of explanation as special revelation (Bible).
My balls created everything there was, is, and will be.
Except D4rk, who created them.
@ gwelymernans
Lol....big words don't look good when you don't capitalize the first word of the sentence.... Anyways...
I guess? I'm on your side...as I usually say the same thing about fellow Christians.... I do have to disagree with your statement about "but they do tend to clash (almost always unprovoked) w/ science more than any other religion".
Uh...Old Testament...Judaism....yeah.... Islam....Mormonism.... all believe in a creator. Let alone hinduism with it's hundreds (or even thousands) of gods.
Why are Christians expected to be knowledgeable in theoretical physics relating to the origins, but atheists know nothing about the teachings of the Bible or other religious texts when DEBATING them. Not necessarily you....mostly dA...but yeah.....
Oscillating universe theory
Dang, I didn't realise you'd posted this question here too!
Like I just posted on Wiichat, I reckon the Big Bang did occur. It would explain the Cosmic Microwave Background, and since the Universe is expanding, then presumably it was once a single point.
Lol...astrophysicist is in da house.... Yeah... I read Hawking's History, and Baby Universes. Intriguing stuff... But if it's always expanding, what's the argument for points of singularity in the future? Also, he says when energy is that dense, all laws of physics as we know them are void...so it's essentially impossible to go farther back than just saying "big bang". Science is still unable to find the why. I also think it is of some worth that he himself does not believe in the anthromorphic or whatever theory.
It is also of some note that not all scientists are atheist. Case in point, Hawking is an agnostic, and Einstein was loosely Catholic. "God does not play dice" (In response to Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle) lol
At the biging of the universe, there was two tiny atoms. Those atoms grew, and fused together under the emence heat they where creating. When fused, all that energy was released in what we call the big bang. In those first few seconds, all the elements where created from the super atom and the unizerse expanded. With nothing to hit agansist, and the massive amount of energy realeased, there became a universal tempiture, which still exists to this day. The left over dust became the first sun and planets, then created more solar systems. There was so much dust, it is still creating suns and planets today. Fast forward to earth: A comet, which contained micro organisms, crash landed on young earth, after the great rain. The dead organisms allowed the first plant to grow, which spread and slowly gave our earth air. That lead to New micro organisms in our vast seas, which created fish, who evolved into mammals, who evolved into us.
God ate beans, farted, Big Bang.... yeah
Lol...astrophysicist is in da house....
Yeah... I read Hawking's History, and Baby Universes. Intriguing stuff... But if it's always expanding, what's the argument for points of singularity in the future? Also, he says when energy is that dense, all laws of physics as we know them are void...so it's essentially impossible to go farther back than just saying "big bang". Science is still unable to find the why. I also think it is of some worth that he himself does not believe in the anthromorphic or whatever theory.
You're talking about the "Big Crunch" theory, right? Well the idea is that eventually the mass of the universe will eventually become large enough to stop the expansion and pull it back into a singularity. But that theory has been losing popularity since the discovery of "dark energy" (I say discovery, but we don't know what it is, only that it exists), which apparently accelerates the expansion.
@ gwelymernans
Lol....big words don't look good when you don't capitalize the first word of the sentence.... Anyways...
I guess? I'm on your side...as I usually say the same thing about fellow Christians.... I do have to disagree with your statement about "but they do tend to clash (almost always unprovoked) w/ science more than any other religion".
Uh...Old Testament...Judaism....yeah.... Islam....Mormonism.... all believe in a creator. Let alone hinduism with it's hundreds (or even thousands) of gods.
Why are Christians expected to be knowledgeable in theoretical physics relating to the origins, but atheists know nothing about the teachings of the Bible or other religious texts when DEBATING them. Not necessarily you....mostly dA...but yeah.....
yeah, i've heard comments about that, but if you've noticed i tend to not capitalize just about anything on message boards such as wiiloaded. just seems like a waste of time to me. perhaps i'm just lazy.
i didn't say that christians are the only religious folk who provoke the scientific community, and certainly most religions have ideological differences w/ the scientific community. but by 'provoking science', i meant taking actual action and not merely disagreeing w/ the scientific community. a good example of what i'm referring to would be how the fundies in georgia required that biology textbooks in that state have stickers on the inside cover stating that evolution is only a theory and implying that the chances this theory was false were better than the chances it was true. this was in clear violation of the rights of the publishers and authors and has since been overturned. and i don't think that biologists were pushing for all bibles in georgia to contain a sticker that stated that creationism has absolutely no tangible evidence of being true.
nor did i say there was not a creator... i stated that there are no grounds to claim there was or was not a creator and that it truly is speculative either way. i merely meant to point out that people accept religious ideologies that don't jive w/ reality and that one would think they would want their beliefs to jive w/ what they see in nature.
and i don't expect christians (or anyone) to be experts in theoretical physics. i just would think they would take into account the findings of physicists since they more than any other profession study the inner workings of the universe. and even that doesn't mean they have to lose their faith, just that they need to realize there may be conflicts betweent their faith and reality.
hope i've cleared any misunderstandings of my earlier post up.
It is also of some note that not all scientists are atheist. Case in point, Hawking is an agnostic, and Einstein was loosely Catholic. "God does not play dice" (In response to Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle) lol
no, but in a 1998 survey by the magazine nature given to members of the national academy of the sciences, about 72 percent were atheists and 21 percent were agnostic. Only about 7 percent believed in a personal god. and the percentage of atheists only goes up in the sciences that study the universe or life (biological sciences and physics). and the term atheist has different connotations to many people. some atheists just don't believe in a god, some are not members of religions, and some are actually anti-theists.
Forces created by the mass itself? I know that's how they explain gravitational pull. I don't know, I gave up physics this year so we never got into any detail.
D4rk, what are up quarks and down quarks? You mentioned those before
I tried to understand them before A-Level. It didn't work. So you should wait too.
"JUST gravity" "JUST electromagnetic forces"....but where do THOSE come from. How and why are those the way they were? If everything, the mass of a quark, the force of gravity, the strong force. Anything...if it were changed just a little, everything would be screwed. I suppose you could state the anthromorphic theory...but that's kinda like side-stepping the question....just like Christians are blamed of doing.
You mean the Anthropic Principle? Yeah, that's a right puzzler. The theory of parallel universes gets around the problem easily (in a multiverse with an infinite number of different universes, one is eventually bound to come up that could support life), but right now that's pretty much on the same level as religion- there's not a lot we can do to test if it's true.
Bingo. If you modify that theory slightly and give that infinite cycle an intelligence, it becomes a god. the problem is, that destroys the whole essence of the theory because as einstien said "God doesn't play dice", so everything would have been planned.