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Cloud, that thing is just like Fox Illusion. So its really not to Ike's credit. Granted it will improve his horizontal recovery but I can only assume that he'll be unable to do anything after that and he'll fall like a brick.
If you get knocked really far with ike looks like your gonna have to use a combo of side b and up b. This is good cuz i thought ike's recovery sucked. I kinda had a feeling that a recovery move like ikes up b couldnt have been his initial recovery since most are Up B.

LMX Wrote:
Cloud, that thing is just like Fox Illusion. So its really not to Ike's credit. Granted it will improve his horizontal recovery but I can only assume that he'll be unable to do anything after that and he'll fall like a brick.


Since its Chargeable do you think Fox's will be? Sorta like Pikachu's skull bash or something.

Hopefully before I fall like a brick I can se his recovery, since it has a lot of Verticle.

ike's recovery looks good considering he's a heavy character. his sideB recovery looks good
Yea his Side B is really quick, but his recovery is terrible.

But about his strength and the way he tossed DK.

One attack, and DK was off the stage. o_O
O_O

That wasn't even a smash attack. Wtf... he's strong.

pesticide Wrote:
ike's recovery looks good considering he's a heavy character. his sideB recovery looks good

i think he recovery is worse compared to Bowser, DK, and DDD.

Did anyone notice that Ike used Marth's Nair in the first vid.

Bowser's recovery is damn fine, don't be hating on it.
WTF? i said it's worse than bowser's.
yup i agree, ike looks promising. he has a looong reach. not good if ur versing him and u have a short reach, especially ppl who master ike
Ike's fair has long range, all his attacks do, and send you flying. Lol.

First Sword character stronger than Bowser?

its too bad his recovery is all vertical, I guess if your not close enough, your forced too use the Side B Recovery, and eventually there will be a way to float closer to the edge without dying, Like Marth.
does anyone know if you can you his up-b after his side-b?
Just like how you use Fox's Side B, then you can't use his Up B after..so I guess that you can't.
but u nvr know cloud. u can dodge in that air and still jump supposedly. things have changed
You can dodge multiple times. But you cannot jump again, if you could the game would be incredibly broken due to being able to dodge jump dodge jump dodge jump, ect.
well i meant, dodge then jump and use ur up b and then u fall. not using over and over again so u always get back on the stage
I still don't think you'll be able to use your Up B after a dodge, and anyhoo... they aren't directional anymore (stupid Sakurai) and you can only dodge on the spot in midair (stupid Sakurai)
I just realized that if Ike isn't good, there'll be no Marth + Ike rape.
Me and Ricky will have to be the crew to be reckoned with.

And when Ricky realized betraying your own team is a bad thing, we will be great.
Lol, who could ever trust someone like Cloud? A guy who says "let's work together", and then turns around and kills you.
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