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The new Phenom 9600 gets beat at practically every hurdle by the similarly priced Q6600.

So I wonder if this will be the same for the Ph9900 Vs QX9770

I hope so, tbh, I'm a bit of an intel fanboy Toungue

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,16...939,00.asp
Continues doing his product comparison essay which he just started before is interested by the products you mentioned

I know nothing of computers but would be nice to learn a little bit.
I personally have never been big into intel processors. In my own personal experience, I've found that AMD chips work better for me with basic tasks. I mean doing routine things like going into control panel or openning a program has always been faster when I try both tasks on AMD processor VS a similar Intel processor.

I also like the fact that the AMD Phenom can be used in older motherboards, so that your not stuck spending more cash to upgrade your processor.
Core 2 Processors still use LGA-775 Ports.

Admittedly Higher FSBs are required, but they are also for Phenom, So I don't really see any difference.

And I have yet to try a phenom processor, but since the Intel exceeds it at nearly every mark, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if it worked quicker.


Edit: GEEZ! 11.5x multiplyer!! That thing's going to overclock as easy as slicing butter with a chainsaw!
Like I said, I've dealt with X2 and core2 dual chipsets and all the others processors before it, and I've always been very happy with AMD. I'd say if I was going to give props to a great intel processor I'd have to mention Intel Pentium 3, but with the blunder that was the Pentium 4.....yeesh.
Factory settings the P4s were rubbish.
OC them and you've got yourselves a winner.


I'm wondering when they'll reinclude the Pseudo-cores into their CPUs again

Imagine a Hyperthreaded 8 Core beast (16 Logical Cores) ^_^

gft77 Wrote:
I personally have never been big into intel processors. In my own personal experience, I've found that AMD chips work better for me with basic tasks. I mean doing routine things like going into control panel or openning a program has always been faster when I try both tasks on AMD processor VS a similar Intel processor.


Use the new Intel processors, you'll change your mind.

sc7 Wrote:

gft77 Wrote:
I personally have never been big into intel processors.  In my own personal experience, I've found that AMD chips work better for me with basic tasks.  I mean doing routine things like going into control panel or openning a program has always been faster when I try both tasks on AMD processor VS a similar Intel processor.


Use the new Intel processors, you'll change your mind.


I generally sit down with a core2duo twice a week or so and I'm not impressed. I sit down with a AMD64X2 3800+ about 4 days a week and find that to be better suited for my needs.

gft77 Wrote:

sc7 Wrote:

gft77 Wrote:
I personally have never been big into intel processors. In my own personal experience, I've found that AMD chips work better for me with basic tasks. I mean doing routine things like going into control panel or openning a program has always been faster when I try both tasks on AMD processor VS a similar Intel processor.


Use the new Intel processors, you'll change your mind.


I generally sit down with a core2duo twice a week or so and I'm not impressed. I sit down with a AMD64X2 3800+ about 4 days a week and find that to be better suited for my needs.

The only thing I can say is that you must have different software or RAM configurations. From a software development standpoint, I can guarantee you ALL software I've written performs better on C2Ds than AMDs.

I don't know, all I can tell you is what I've experienced.  Have you found any info on the HD DVD structure yet?  I posted some info from Toshiba within the tech forum on the question at hand.
what is overclocking, how do you do it, and what makes it so good?
wow another tech comparison site that uses programs specificaly coded for a particualr processor,

concidering the difference in clock speed the AMD chip more than holds it's own in that test. and in the only tests that actually matter

IE the high res game tests, the AMD was far to close to call.
The point was that even though the AMD had a lower clock, it was still the same price as the C2Q

If they were the same clock then it would be more fair in some ways and less fair in others, I think the factory clock is the best way to test it.
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