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I saw a different 2nd jump from Lucario.

Yeah, also Lucario is more agile and maybe faster than Mewtwo. Can't wait to play as him.

On an unrelated note I love the Kirby Bosses theme song in guy's profile with the Lucario video.
Lucario will be awesome...

I'm in love with the rock version of Gourmet Race. But I also hope the orchestrated version from SSBM comes back.

LMX Wrote:

You are correct. His boomerang is from WW, it acts like Y. Link's boomerang in Melee. I think he uses Fire Arrows like Y. Link. And his sword moves are mapped to his WW sword like Adult Link's.

He's a clone. He's Y. Link inside Toon Link's body.

skylinedfire Wrote:

LMX Wrote:

You are correct. His boomerang is from WW, it acts like Y. Link's boomerang in Melee. I think he uses Fire Arrows like Y. Link. And his sword moves are mapped to his WW sword like Adult Link's.

He's a clone. He's Y. Link inside Toon Link's body.

Well, after watching the Toon Link video, he's not EXACTLY the same as Young Link, technically--

Y'know how absolutely terrible Young Link's ^B spin attack was? How it sucked the enemies in, instead of throwing them 90 yards in the other direction? It looks as though Toon Link now even more closely mirrors Link in that respect, as his spin knocks back now.

And is it just me, or does his pogo sword no longer pogo, in exchange for a fast, pointed descent?

On the downside, Toon Link tosses a plain boomerang, where I was pretty sure I saw Link's boomerang whip up a small tornado every time he threw it in a gameplay video.

Essentially, Toon's a lot better than Young Link-- he's still a clone of them mashed together, but I at least can prefer him over Young Link at this point in time (seeing as how I have yet to actually play...).

Also-- Wolf being a clone is decent news. I was always better as Falco, and Wolf seems to be an improved Falco-- He's heavier than Fox, his blaster hiccups the foe, and his ^B recovery is the farthest amongst them without any charge delay?

That sounds wonderful.

I don't see why they just don't dump Fox. Toungue

Badwrong Wrote:

So now the clones have gone from being Ryu/Ken SFII era to Ryu/Ken SFIII Era? I can live with that. They actually gave some of the clones different animations for regular moves to set them apart. Come to think of it, that's all SFIII was with Ryu/Ken/Akuma, and somehow these characters felt different enough in actual play.

Sky and Brad = +1

WW Link is FTW

Then go ahead and play him JM. I agree he's ftw, but he is disgustingly cloned and has none of his cool WW/PH items like the Hammer, Deku Leaf for Grappling Hook. And I still assume his FSA will be a copy of Triforce Slash.

His tether recovery will probably be the grappling hook.

...Have any of you guys seen Luigi's final smash?

ZA WARUDO!

But LMX you have to understand that Link [in all his incarnations] have SO MANY ITEMS.

when you think of Link [regardless of what timeline or game] you think of: Sword, Shield, Boomerang, and Bombs.

if that was the case, TP Link should have way more of his inventory.

But I do understand the fact that WW Link is unique. Very, WW/PH had a lot of cool items. But, he is LINK regardless. So he must carry on the tradition.

Man, I really want to play as WW Link and Wolf. Wolf seems alot faster then Falco. He seems better overall.

Hopefully Wolf will play an awesome villan in SSE. But it seems that even the villans arent working on the same page (example-Dedede stealing wario's trophy collection.) Man this story is going to be so damn epic im going insane.
Damn! O_O. Luigi's final smash could be awesome if used strategically.

No VA's = less epic.

Its hard to convey a story with "AH!" and "Oooh"

Luigi FS is an result of too much shrooomz

I dunno, JRPGs prove how convoluted things can get when dialog comes into play. I'm just glad I won't be getting any lectures from the last boss!

We'll have an understanding...through our fists.

Hey, at least JRPG's have VA. At least there's more depth there when the characters have voices.

Lol, LoZ has been doing it for years, and I always loved the story. The widley accepted greatest game of all time doesn't have VA's.

Yes, but Zelda at least has text. It doesn't even look like SSE will have that much.

Text in SSE, hell no. No time for that Im here to friggin brawl my ass cakes off.

Nintendo's idea of dialog is retarded baby talk (Animal Crossing).

Oh, no text either? Lol wow, they better have some really elaborate movements. :p
Although in terms of fighting games I have to say this has the most grandiose story of them all.

When you say elaborate movements it somehow gives me flashbacks of Resident Evil 2. CHOPPY HAND MOTIONS!

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