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TheSTFUUN00BFrog Wrote:

Mr.Luben Wrote:
God


Smaky Wrote:
God made it?


-_-


Big bang/Big crunch theories settle it for me, for now at least. I'm sure I'll look into it a bit more. One thing's certain, it was no "god".


"-_-"?

TheSTFUUN00BFrog Wrote:
-_-


Big bang/Big crunch theories settle it for me, for now at least. I'm sure I'll look into it a bit more. One thing's certain, it was no "god".


one can only be truely certain with proof. Smile

Wenis Wrote:

TheSTFUUN00BFrog Wrote:
-_-


Big bang/Big crunch theories settle it for me, for now at least. I'm sure I'll look into it a bit more. One thing's certain, it was no "god".


one can only be truely certain with proof. Smile


And thats exactly why I don't believe in a God. Sorry guys, but a two-thousand year old book isn't really what I'd call proof.

And if the Bible's anything to go by, I wouldn't be writing here. I'd be out in the street stoning gays.

So basically yeah, I think that the Big Bang is the most accurate theory out there as of yet. Recent research shows that a Big Crunch is unlikely. The parallel universe theory also makes a lot of sense.

SlaterSharp Wrote:

Wenis Wrote:

TheSTFUUN00BFrog Wrote:
-_-


Big bang/Big crunch theories settle it for me, for now at least. I'm sure I'll look into it a bit more. One thing's certain, it was no "god".


one can only be truely certain with proof. Smile


And thats exactly why I don't believe in a God. Sorry guys, but a two-thousand year old book isn't really what I'd call proof.

And if the Bible's anything to go by, I wouldn't be writing here. I'd be out in the street stoning gays.

So basically yeah, I think that the Big Bang is the most accurate theory out there as of yet. Recent research shows that a Big Crunch is unlikely. The parallel universe theory also makes a lot of sense.


I'm not targeting Sistersharp here but it's easier to quote this quote then quote the different ones in this thread. I'm not here to debate whether or not God exists. I'm just here to say that if someone says God does not exist without proof then how is it different than he does exist without proof? I remember seeing a movie one time and it hit the nail on the head for this kind of comment. Let's say you love someone that is no longer living, how can you prove you love them? Who says what act shows love and what doesn't?

If you want to bring science into it then look no further than the bee. Scientists still can't understand how the bee can fly. It shouldn't be able to fly. Since the scientist can't find the reason does that mean the bee can't fly? Before anyone pulls the "God isn't real because there's no proof" you need to think about things like this.

I'm not sure what the truth is but I look at it this way, there had to be a starting point. Let's say you believe the big bang theory, where did the planets (rocks) come from? Where did anything come from? Well, you'll find out when you die and unfortunately you more than likely won't be coming back to say who was right.

I believe that God Created 'Heaven And Earth'.

But it didn't say the Universe. I would suspect that he created the Universe also.

But after this thread burns down in a Biblical talk, I'm outtie.

ManaBurnX Wrote:

SlaterSharp Wrote:

Wenis Wrote:

TheSTFUUN00BFrog Wrote:
-_-


Big bang/Big crunch theories settle it for me, for now at least. I'm sure I'll look into it a bit more. One thing's certain, it was no "god".


one can only be truely certain with proof. Smile


And thats exactly why I don't believe in a God. Sorry guys, but a two-thousand year old book isn't really what I'd call proof.

And if the Bible's anything to go by, I wouldn't be writing here. I'd be out in the street stoning gays.

So basically yeah, I think that the Big Bang is the most accurate theory out there as of yet. Recent research shows that a Big Crunch is unlikely. The parallel universe theory also makes a lot of sense.


I'm not targeting Sistersharp here but it's easier to quote this quote then quote the different ones in this thread. I'm not here to debate whether or not God exists. I'm just here to say that if someone says God does not exist without proof then how is it different than he does exist without proof? I remember seeing a movie one time and it hit the nail on the head for this kind of comment. Let's say you love someone that is no longer living, how can you prove you love them? Who says what act shows love and what doesn't?

If you want to bring science into it then look no further than the bee. Scientists still can't understand how the bee can fly. It shouldn't be able to fly. Since the scientist can't find the reason does that mean the bee can't fly? Before anyone pulls the "God isn't real because there's no proof" you need to think about things like this.

I'm not sure what the truth is but I look at it this way, there had to be a starting point. Let's say you believe the big bang theory, where did the planets (rocks) come from? Where did anything come from? Well, you'll find out when you die and unfortunately you more than likely won't be coming back to say who was right.


Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this thread into a God debate. I was just showing how Wenis' "you can't be certain without proof" could easily be turned against him.

But the thing is I'm sure he was aware of that. I'm not really a "I believe in God" person. But I really do hate people who rule it out without any good reason.

:3

ManaBurnX Wrote:
Well, you'll find out when you die and unfortunately you more than likely won't be coming back to say who was right.


Sadly we won't find out when we die, because we will be lying in our graves. Unless "heaven" really exists, we will never know how the earth/universe was created, even if we die. Well, I think the big bang theory makes the most sense.

Napalmbrain Wrote:
*Astrophysicist steps in*

Personally I'm slightly inclined towards the theory of parallel universes, since it neatly gets around loads of problems in physics. Unfortunately, it does have the same problem as string theory- there's currently no way to check if it's right or not.


it does, but alot of physicists (although not myself) don't like this b/c it would suggest that time is a human construct or at least not necessary in certain universes as proven by godel and einstein.

Rawrmander Wrote:
I don't believe the universe is expanding, or infinite for that matter.
For that to be possible, there must be an infinite amount of chances for life to develope on different plants, with an infinite amount of chances for them to obtain the technology or availability to travel the universe, giving them an infinite amount of chances to come to earth, with an infinite amount of chances we'd know about it. Hasn't happened, I can't believe it.


I'm going to say this for about the hundredth time in my life (not wanting to sound liek a prick Toungue)

What is space?

Space is... nothing! DING DING DING Jackpot!

Space isn't the black thing "up there" with all the stars and junk, it's nothing. When you buy an apartment and want it to have lots of space, what do you want it to have? A big void "space" with nothing in it!

Space is infinite, the amount of matter in it is definite. Since space is nothing (infinite) and matter is something (finite).

space is something.

on earth it contains lots of elements and compounds as well as sub-atomic particles.
outside of the earth's atmosphere, there's neutrinos and leptons floating about out there in a great number along with other elements/compounds (just no where near as many as in air).

beyond the end of the universe, there IS nothing. but, since it's theoretically impossible to reach the end of the universe, you're left with the incomprehensible concept of nothingness. the same nothingness that surrounded the singularity that the universe expanded from.

0-dimensional singularity: gravitational singularity
I think I love napalmToungue They really should get a way of testing ST, it would be fantastic.
Nope sorry. Nice try though.

D4rk Wrote:
let me know if that made any sense


Don't worry, I've been taught the balloon model for years and I still can't describe it (I get it, but it's hard to put into words).

But what I'm saying is, it's somewhat meaningless to say the Universe has an edge if it's impossible to sense or detect it in any way. In a closed universe (the balloon) you can travel forward and after some amount of time you just end up back where you started, no matter which way you went. And in the other possibilities, an open or a flat universe, the Universe is already infinitely large, and the universal expansion represents the gaps between galaxies getting bigger (interesting note: the flat universe is currently favoured by cosmologists).

there was a flash video I saw a long time ago that sums up what I think I'll see If I can find it.

I think I posted it here in the past :/

edit: oh how I love vista's instant search.

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

D4rk Wrote:
there was a flash video I saw a long time ago that sums up what I think I'll see If I can find it.

I think I posted it here in the past :/

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php


Really good video, thanks

D4rk Wrote:
there was a flash video I saw a long time ago that sums up what I think I'll see If I can find it.

I think I posted it here in the past :/

edit: oh how I love vista's instant search.

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php


my brain hurts... Toungue

Surprised no one has mentioned Hawking...what are the generally feelings towards his theories?

Snake Wrote:

ManaBurnX Wrote:
Well, you'll find out when you die and unfortunately you more than likely won't be coming back to say who was right.


Sadly we won't find out when we die, because we will be lying in our graves. Unless "heaven" really exists, we will never know how the earth/universe was created, even if we die. Well, I think the big bang theory makes the most sense.


That's my point. If there's any kind of afterlife then you'll be experiencing it. If not then there's nothing in which case you'll be right but won't be able to know your right because you are. I know it sounds ridiculous and it is. Toungue I'm staying out of this thread before I implode!

ManaBurnX Wrote:

Snake Wrote:

ManaBurnX Wrote:
Well, you'll find out when you die and unfortunately you more than likely won't be coming back to say who was right.


Sadly we won't find out when we die, because we will be lying in our graves. Unless "heaven" really exists, we will never know how the earth/universe was created, even if we die. Well, I think the big bang theory makes the most sense.


That's my point. If there's any kind of afterlife then you'll be experiencing it. If not then there's nothing in which case you'll be right but won't be able to know your right because you are. I know it sounds ridiculous and it is. Toungue I'm staying out of this thread before I implode!


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Space has no boundary - that is empirically more certain than any external observation. However, that does not imply that space is infinite...(translated, original German)
Bernhard Riemann (Habilitationsvortrag, 1854)

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