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Sooo I don't know how familiar you all are with the Ocarina of Time Uber Challenge:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/n64/file/197771/44025

Basically, its a gameplay challenge which uses various glitches and tricks to do "impossible" things in LoZ, ie play the Shadow Temple before ever entering the Forest Temple while at the same time depriving yourself of upgrades that make the game easier.

But I really regret having read about it! I'm currently in an OoT file, and read the challenge when I came across it by chance awhile ago...and its almost as if the game is ruined for me, lol. I thought it was cool to get the game 100% but I'd almost feel proud if I had a game file that met all the Uber Challenge qualifications.



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UBER CHALLENGE RESTRICTIONS
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-3 hearts, no Heart Pieces whatsoever
-Buy Giant's Knife and break it ASAP, and use that at all times (except in the
Graveyard and while fighting Ganon)
-All Medallions
-1 Bottle
-No deaths (death counter at file select must say 000)
-No Iron Boots
-No capacity upgrades
-No Great Fairy gifts except Magic Meter and Din's Fire
-No Gold Skulltula family gifts from 20 or more Gold Skulltulas
-No Goron Bracelet
-No Fire Arrows
-No Lens of Truth
-No Longshot
-No Silver Scale
-No Zora Tunic
-No Gerudo's Card
-No Maps or Compasses
-No Biggoron's Sword
-Cannot use Action Replay, Gameshark, etc.
-Cannot use Crooked Cartridge (touching your game cartridge while playing)
-Cannot use Din's Fire outside the central room of the Water Temple
-Cannot use Megaton Hammer to attack enemies (exception of stunning Volvagia)
-Cannot use Megaton Hammer outside the Fire Temple
-Cannot use Deku Sticks to attack enemies
-Cannot use power crouch stab
-Cannot use bottle except to show Ruto's Letter to King Zora
-Cannot learn any songs except Song of Time, Zelda's Lullaby, and Minuet of
Forest
-Must have Shadow Medallion before entering Forest Temple
-Must fight Dark Link


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SHIELD RESTRICTIONS
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You must burn your Deku Shield ASAP. You may not equip another one. You may not
obtain a Hylian Shield as a child, but you may obtain a Hylian Shield as an
adult. You may only use a Hylian Shield in the Graveyard. Aside from that,
while you have a shield equipped, use it as little as possible and destroy it
quickly. After completing the Spirit Temple, equip a Hylian Shield and let a
Like Like eat it so you can continue without a shield. The optimal locations to
destroy your shield are included in the route, below.

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UBER CHALLENGE ROUTE
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When originally posted on GameFAQs, the Uber Challenge included a route through
the game. This route has been fine-tuned to involve minimal backtracking.

Child

-Deku Tree
-Fairy Ocarina
-Golden Scale
-Ruto's Letter
-Jabu Jabu
-Zora's River (Magic Bean)
-Zelda's Lullaby
-Spirit Temple (burn shield ASAP)
-Dodongo's Cavern
-Magic Meter
-Adult's Wallet
-Graveyard (plant Magic Bean)
-Ocarina of Time
-Din's Fire
-Temple of Time

Adult

-Goron City (Goron Tunic, Giant's Knife; break immediately)
-Graveyard (Hookshot, Hylian Shield)
-Shadow Temple (feed shield to Like Like ASAP, kill Like Like and retrieve
shield)
-Fire Temple
-Minuet of Forest
-Forest Temple
-Water Temple
-Spirit Temple (complete, reenter and feed shield to Like Like)
-Temple of Time
-Ganon's Castle

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o.o i would never be able to do that. definitely an uber challenge, that i am not up to attempting. cause i know that once i try it and fail miserably, imma waste my entire life until i beat it.

Thats impossible..

water temple without iron boots? LOL

LOL is that even possible? LOL

WOW thats a friggin uber hard challenge!

LOL @ using broken Giant's knife for almost everything!

When you start to read the walkthrough, you kinda get an idea of how some of these are done. Since it says you have to defeat Dark Link, and they make a point of saying that, that says to me they use a trick to skip most of the water dungeon, a trick I believe I've seen on Youtube. If its the one I'm thinking, there's a glitch to get in the Boss room without having the key, too. Keep in mind these challenge was only finally put all together last year, so this has been several years in the making obviously. Just getting into the Shadow Temple before the Forest Temple requires a trick with a bomb exploding Link onto a ledge that you can walk on around the Graveyard, to the Shadow Temple.

I'm wondering how the hell you avoid learning any songs except three. I mean, wtf? How do you avoid learning them from Sheik? Maybe if you didnt have an Ocarina and were just using the Ocarina Glitch?

Just having read the challenge has made me unhappy in general, with the file I'm playing now. I can't play it without thinking of the super hard version, its made regular play very unsatisfying. Damn you Uber Challenge.

Oh yeah and the broken Giants sword is awesome. Always made fighting Dark Link really easy.

Here's a vid I came across: entering Water Temple as young Link. Maybe a similar glitch is used to enter the Temple later without the boots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOIIJ5DoN4Q

Here's a vid, used with the Master Quest version (the guy who made it only has three hearts, so I'm guessing he's trying to modify the Uber Challenge for MQ, which has no official version yet because some of the key factors have changed) of skipping the Water Temple: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZHDDGuYCIgo

that uber challenge seems impossible! You would need to know the game like the back of your hand to do that.

Sounds like fun.
I should try this sometime. ^^
But I loath having to restart every time I die. Dx

Yes, but I do know OoT like the back of my hand.

*stares at hand*

"Hey, that's new..."

better get that checked out... could be melanoma.

lol, that's insane 0.o

Here's one on using other items as your Ocarina

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uy5CzbFxjWY

which enables another trick where you do not retrieve the Fairy Ocarina until you are an adult.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=trW0Cdv7Chw however this is a cartridge-only trick.

idk if this is an uber challenge, but the cardinal kingdom will have different story modes...the Cardinal Kingdom, the Cardinal Legend, the Hyrulian Challenge, Ganeon's Quest, and the Battle for Hyrule



if anyone's interested in finding out more check out the Cardinal Kingdom thread and comment, i will respond