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Okay, as all of us know, whether from the US or not, one of the most important mid-term elections is coming up soon. Just tell me, if you could , how would you vote? I know, not all of us on this forum are American or, for that matter, hold te US in the, let us say, highest regard. But, at least say how you would vote and why. Just pick, even if you are under 18 or live outside of the US.

I'm definitely voting Democrat. I loved Clinton when he was in office, and I wanted Gore to win in 2004, and I wanted Kerry to get that war-driven country hick out of office.

I say we Democrats will give Bush a really hard time passing some laws this year... >: )

Demo. I hate bush. He needs to step down before he gets us nuked.

Tru 'dat, tru 'dat. I don't want this post to, like, disappear, so, could you, you know, put this somewhere? Maybe, someone? I know it's weird, but I hate posting things and then no one noticing.

The Demo's are too weak/stupid to win against Bush, thus how do you expect them to handle foreign policy?

The way I see it? If Iraq becomes a haven for democracy, Bush will be remembered as a great leader with bold visions. If it destroys itself, he'll be viewed as a horrible failure.

Let's not forget that the Democrats also voted to go to war with Iraq, as did the majority of US citizens.

Okay, z6, I see how it is. So, the lines are drawn. Why do all Republicans call Democrats weak? Just because many of us don't support the war in Iraq, doesn't mean that we're weak. You know, the terroists of 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan or Iraq. I'll let you stew on that for a while.

It doesn't matter where they are from, it's what they are. Brainwashed Islamic Fundamentallists that are under control by powerful Middle Eastern leaders. They are actually in several different countries, even in Iraq.
However much I don't like Bush, he is an effective president, much more so than Gore or Kerry could ever hope of being.

Furthermore, this Novemeber are only mid-term elections, not presidential elections. So discussion of the president is off-hilter slightly.

As well, for small local elections, there are several different choices one would need to make. Where in some states they need Republicans, others need Democrats. Where I am, California, we need Democrats to protect us at the moment from tax propositions(like Prop. 86 and Prop. 87) that will take our taxes and give it to hospitals to cover non-insured patients that do not pay, whilst they are already inflated.

Read your local newspaper, make your own choices, don't join parties--just be yourself.

Didn't the war start because of 1991's desert storm? Isn't that when George Bush Senior invaded Afganastan because he thought they had nuclear weapons? I think the reason we got bombed is because Greoge W. Bush was elected, the son of Geoge Bush Senior. They wanted revenge so they decided to do it when Bush was elected. I think that Bush went to war is because he is doing exactly what his dad did. Well, this is what I think. I'm not trying to start any flame wars.

Very good words indeed.

I wasn't drawing any lines, I was making a point because everything up until then was Democratic support. I could have just as easily made a pro-democratic point in a group of Republicans.

While I may support the Republicans more often than Democrats, my reply was made to invoke discussion without aligning with their side.

I have to agree with poet, many regional parties are a bit different than the national candidates that represent them, and thus each area must make a decision based on how their local group can benefit them.

As far as Iraq and the rest of the Middle East goes, it's unfortunate that many American make opinions on situations there without a true understanding of what they are talking about. I would wager that the majority of Americans could not identify three Middle Eastern countries on an unlabeled map. While knowledge in geography is much different than an understanding of policy, being unable to locate the country being referred to would make me seriously question the opinion of a group.

Thank you for proving my point!

Google "Saddam Hussein" and look at a few pages on him, some biographies. He was one of the evilest men to have ever lived. His idol was Adolf Hitler. He gassed his own people. He executes his own people with no trials.

Then, you'll see it doesn't matter what the reason appeared to be for our military endeavor to begin in Iraq for a second time. I think Bush Sr. should've killed him in the original Gulf War, but his son had to fix his mistake for him.

There are good and bad people in every country. It is the uniformed who point fingers at all of any country. I f you want to make a difference, get informed, make your own choices, and vote the way your INFORMED choices would lead you to vote!

I was joking about the "drawing lines" part. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I guess you're right that it doesn't matter where they are from. Anyways, why do we need to have a war in Iraq anyway? I think that terrorists are bad just like any other person. But why, when someone speaks out against WAR, for god's sake, why are they branded unpatriotic or weak. I'm not saying any of you said that, but z6 did call the Dems weak, not necesarily for that reason. I completely agree with what all of you have said about voting the way you are informed, and I would choose, if I could, to vote Democratic, because what this country needs most right now isn't a war, isn't a $6 trillion defecit; no, what this country needs is change.

Change is always good. As long as it doesn't change to communism. 8)

I guess my main concern about the Democrats is that they love to follow public opionon. The problem with that is that most people do not know what is best for themselves or for their group.

As for the war in Iraq (we have not been in a declared state of war since WWII.), it was not necessarily about terrorists, but about neutralizing a potiental future threat. Did we find WMD's? No, but it's documented fac that he had them, as he used them against others. We asked him to comply with regulatory commisions, and he snubbed his nose. Thus, we removed him from power, right or wrong, as a preemptive strike to keep American's safe. If you look back, you'll see that the Democrats heavily supported this action as well.

The unfortunete thing is that we'll never know if we thrawrted a huge world war and hundreds of millions of deaths by hitting him now. I imagine that if we had invaded Germany in 1938 to remove Hitler from power, everyone would have been upset, not knowing what would have happened shortly thereafter.

To bring in another counterpoint, what's so wrong with war, and what is so wrong with a defecit? Not saying that they are good, but points could be made to support them.

The military spending right after 9/11 brought this country out of the recession that we fell into during Clinton's second term. War jump starts economies and reduces overpopulation. War settles more major disputes than negotiation.

And for the deficit, when we purchase something from out of the country, we send our dollar out in exchange for a product. The majority of these dollars circulate the globe without making it back to the US. Thus, we essentially traded a piece of paper (which is basically worthless except that the US Government says it's worth something) for a tangible product. It stays out of the country, and slowly loses value due to inflation. Thus we received something in exchange for nearly nothing.

Aside from those points, who's to say that the Demo's will do all of that? They can't just pull out of Iraq, lest it collapse upon itself and become a battleground for other countries in the area (not to mention a breeding ground for terrorists).

I'm glad there are others (Joker) that can think farther than their front door.
There is a bigger picture than even what we are discussing.
In a matter of matter, we are but a blink of an eye on the galactic calendar, whereas our actions are alltogether meaningless aside from being fungus on the skin of a dying planet.

Me on the other hand, I want to vote for whoever is Pro nationlism. A sense that our own country is in dire need of change before we can attempt to lend a hand onto our foreign nieghtbors. Then we have the immagration issues that need to fixed, and what to do with our local schools.

War didnt just cost us money, it actually did some good in terms of the economy [from what i learned in Econ] But the cost of this war, may not seem generally worth it, it has already been done. Nothing more can be done about it. I feel that the middle east will most likely destroy itself.

id vote for which ever one bush isnt (which is demo i think?) bush is a n00blet

You're a political n00b. Sry2say it but it's so truez0r.

Im a lil bit more worried about the elections being held in CA, finally being able to vote this year... very nervous.