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I'm surprised everyone is talking about the characters, and not the stages!

I thought the battlefield where Metaknight's Halberd swoops by was pretty awesome. I wonder what role the Halberd will play in the stage? Maybe it will come down on the players and knock them off?
snake has a rocket launcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he can crawl?!?!?!?!?!?! hows that gonna work?

fox looks awesome! [drooling] cant wait!

edit: did i see metaknight wavedash, or was that just a short-hop backwards? wario also looks funny when he runs and attacks Toungue
Pit's stage looked awesome... I hope they bring back a few from Melee

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Ricky Wrote:
Alright, after watching the trailer I noticed that although it was brief Metaknight DID have lag after his roll (plus it was a roll grab anyway, if it wasn't a grab then WOW this game is at fault). Pit on the other hand looks like he's going to be the secret God of this game as was Marth for SSBM. That guy had NO lag whatsoever and is waaay faster than I expected. He has sandals and a bow he shouldn't be that fast... it doesn't hurt me though. I found my character.


Not enough lag to punish, I see Metaknight and Pit being the two most broken characters from the announced SSBB line up to date. They are both incredibly fast (attack wise and running wise), they can glide and they have possibly the fasted dodge rolls I've ever seen in SSB.

Ricky Wrote:
Wario... Eh... Well, he was sort of weird. Ran weird. Fought weird. Looked weird. That's Wario for you.


Maybe Wario could be the G&W replacement? He has similar movement, and his moveset kinda reminded my of G&W.

Ricky Wrote:
ZS Samus? I LOVE how she fought and jumped with finesse and grace! I thought she was going to be more of a sloppy character, but they did REALLY well with her. It looks like she'll be my female fighter for this game. (Unless Zelda surprises me). Although she isn't confirmed we can pretty much expect her.


Same goes for me, ZSSamus is lookin' awesome. And I believe she could be Sheik's replacement. Just look at some of her moves, and also does she have automatic low gravity? Because she looked floaty as hell when she jumped into the air 01:24, maybe it was just slo-mo? Anyway ZSSamus just got added to my character list. But I still am interested in whether she is the same character as regular Samus or whether she has been seperated.

Ricky Wrote:
I also like how Mario is more fit for fighting in the air now. Awesome.


I agree, in fact the aerial combat reminds me more of SSB64 now... I think its a result of the slowed down action.

Ricky Wrote:
Thank goodness for slowing down Fox! Now people can control that thing. It also looked like he had a MS bomb strapped to him.. can he use those now? If so, he's going to be a character to watch out for.


Fox looks like he won't have changed much attributse wise, he'll be slowed down but I reckon that he'll be just as powerful. I just wanna see how his shining works, because if that is still in tact I can continue using him into SSBB.

pesticide Wrote:
snake has a rocket launcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he can crawl?!?!?!?!?!?! hows that gonna work?


Well considering Wario crawled and Pikachu was crawling its going to be a new movement type, should be handy for ducking under laser spamming Fox's but I can see myself not really using it much. Unless there are special crawling tilts... in which case, awesome.

pesticide Wrote:
edit: did i see metaknight wavedash, or was that just a short-hop backwards?


There is heavy debate over this, its happening over at SmashBoards. Some say it was a WD but others say it wa his dodge roll. I myself think it was his dodge roll but if it is a WD and Nintendo is showing it in the trailer then they must have accepted it as a fair move. But we don't know yet, from the looks of it he did the dodge roll though.

NBbowler Wrote:
I'm surprised everyone is talking about the characters, and not the stages!


Mario Kart stage looks okay... I think the Shy Guys on the track will get annoying, I'd say its already going to be banned from tournies.
The Yoshi level gurantees that Yoshi is going to be back, and also looks very fun... and from Yoshi's Island which is an awesome game.
The Pit level is a little something for the KI fans and its going to be great to get onto that level.
Stil the presence of the Fire Emblem castle (00:37 is its first appearence) but no Fire Emblem characters to speak of... stop teasing me Nintendo!
Metaknight's level looks like insane amounts of fun, I am hoping the Halberd plays more of a part though.
YAY!!! POKEMON STADIUM IS BACK!!! <333
Hehe Solid Snake's level........ can hardly wait, its that snow place from MGS:TS I think, can't remember its name though, someone on SmashBoards posted it *goes hunting*

All in all I want this game right now, but we have just been teased and who knows when they'll throw us another bone.

LemonManX2 Wrote:

Ricky Wrote:
ZS Samus? I LOVE how she fought and jumped with finesse and grace! I thought she was going to be more of a sloppy character, but they did REALLY well with her. It looks like she'll be my female fighter for this game. (Unless Zelda surprises me). Although she isn't confirmed we can pretty much expect her.


Same goes for me, ZSSamus is lookin' awesome. And I believe she could be Sheik's replacement. Just look at some of her moves, and also does she have automatic low gravity? Because she looked floaty as hell when she jumped into the air 01:24, maybe it was just slo-mo? Anyway ZSSamus just got added to my character list. But I still am interested in whether she is the same character as regular Samus or whether she has been seperated.

<3 she moves a little like the major from GITS

Its a pity we didn't get to see her use her whip/gun combo weapon. We saw her play around with it a little bit though, so its gonna be there...

LemonManX2 Wrote:
Its a pity we didn't get to see her use her whip/gun combo weapon. We saw her play around with it a little bit though, so its gonna be there...

looks like she will be able to change her gun though, maybe from gun to laser whip?

Yeah well when she was first shown in the trailer she was playing around with it and it changed from one to the other so she can use both. I seriously think they've split her from regular Samus.
either way, zamus looks sweet! maybe better than normal samus IMO?
Well it depends what you prefer, Samus is a powerful character and Zamus looks like a speedy character.
Zamus is going to have an great edge, speed, some mild strength, mid to long range attacks
Indeed, could be a well-rounded character and Brawl's version of Shiek who had similar sort of style to what Zamus appears to have (Sheik had a whip and a ranged attack)
i dont mean it against samus (i currently use samus) but zamus just looks sweet. VERY shiek-like. i like shiek in melee on certain occasions.

LemonManX2 Wrote:
Indeed, could be a well-rounded character and Brawl's version of Shiek who had similar sort of style to what Zamus appears to have (Sheik had a whip and a ranged attack)

ohoh never thought of it like that, from how Zamus moved shes not fast, but isnt slow either. Already top tier character?

maybe not top, but pretty high up there. we'll need to play with each of the characters to know where to place them in the tiers though. do u think that the tiers will be changed in the game because some of the characters are re-done? ex: link is not very high on the tier, but he might be put higher because he's been adjusted a little?
I reckon we won't know who's top tier til we see them all. At the moment its a battle between Metaknight, Pit and Zamus though. Wario = bottom tier lol, its obvious from watching him fight.
he looks like G&W ALOT. very weird movement and attacks
Mmhm, thats why I said he may be the replacement for G&W

LemonManX2 Wrote:
Wario = bottom tier lol, its obvious from watching him fight.

lol, very true. unless he somehow has super-strong attacks?

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