Ok, so, now, let me clear some things up.
First of all, perhaps what I said came across wrong, I could understand where my statements could be interpreted in this way. However, I do think flaunting that you ripped someone else off is wrong. I was turned down several times before I got my Wii, and I know how that feels. When people's children will go without it or others don't get it, simply because people with nothing better to do wait in line to get it and sell it for a profit.
What business is it of yours what someone else does with their own property anyway?
I know if I had a spare wii, I'd try and make as much money as I could
It's none of my business, but if they do go and flaunt their actions, then it is just as much of my right to respond to them in a way which I deem appropriate. What I would do if I had a spare Wii, I'd sell it to someone who just missed it for the price it cost me.
That's not really what bothers me the most either. What really gets to me sometimes is when someone with nothing else better to do, gets there, and gets one, while a father misses it by one. That father could only get there so early because he had to take care of his family. Now that family may not get their Wii for Christmas time, because someone else had to take advantage of the Christmas season, rather than share the Christmas spirit.
I stood in line for four hours in the rain and STILL didn't get one. I'm not complaining because I bought one off of craigslist for five hundred ****ing dollars, but I just wanted you to realize that there were people in the world that had to wait in line AND pay extra. Yes it DOES suck to buy a console for five hundred ****ing dollars but if I didn't have the money or the crave for the system I wouldn't have bought it.
Still it sucked spending half a grand on a damn console. People overprice things. Meh, whatever.
I feel for you. I stood in the cold for a long time several times in a row and got rejected. Eventually I got it for retail price. You must have a lot of money (good for you if you do), but I know I, and many other parents of children, or people getting on their feet, cannot just drop $500 to please themselves or someone else, (as much as they'd like to). Again, I dislike people that do this for something they don't even like, and just to make money advantageously of the holiday season. Whilist I understand what you mean for your crave for the system, not everyone is fortunate enough to spend extra to fufill that craving.
Yeah, everyone around here are trying to sell them in the papers for $500 and up. It sucks because if they were still like $260 or below, my parents would buy me one, but now I got to wait until after Christmas.
Exactly what I mean. Someone who really wants it can't have it because of people that do this stuff.
dude, get over it, your responce is absolutely retarded. first of all "you find joy in other people's hardships" thats a load of crap, he made a profit, a business deal, he performed a service, and its not a hardship, if they didnt have the money they wouldnt pay it. also, way to be WAY over dramatic with your reply about how you feel about this, that was just stupid and a giant over reaction. and another thing, this was a business arrangement, he performed a service, as has been stated many times. and the whole world does operate like that pretty much, 9/10 business's are in it for a profit, just like he did this time.
im sorry if this seems like an over reaction to anyone, but this guy really ticked me off, he sure does think a lot of himself. sorry if i offended any one, tried to write this with as much taste as possible, and took a lot to not write it with some 4 letter words to...
Ugh, and uphill battle indeed responding to a post like this. Your whole response is "retarded" as you would say. Where I found that he found joy in others hardships is the fact that he said "I sold it to a desperate person for $XXX.xx". It's not a matter of them having the money or not, it's a matter of them having to spend it. They should be able to get it without spending this money to a scalper. Perhaps my reaction was over the top, perhaps. Your reaction to me looks the same way, as you state you needed to hold back the 4 letter words. Your post is no more mature than my original post. The fact that you got ticked off shocks me, as we all seem to be mad at these people who do it when we don't have it, untill we get it.
This is very far from a business deal, I know how business and the "real world works". I've been living in it for QUITE some time, so I'm not new to the whole scene of things. I know that business' job is to turn over new profit. This is nothing like that at all. This is explotation (selling above retail prices), to others looking to get the product for a certain deadline. The best thing to do about this is agree to disagree. However, please do not attack the maturity of my post, after the last bit you left on the bottom of your post.
I stood in line for a Wii, and they can too. If not, the extra money they pay for the Wii is for my time standing in line.
I agree, I would any day charge someone $75 to stand in line and do the dirty work for them. (It doesn't bother me) What bothers me is the overly large sums of money people are turning over.
That person could have waited and paid the regular price but they were willing to shell out the cash on the spot. Sure it was overcharged but hell I would have given up my Wii for that much money in $AU, imagine the accessories I could buy.
These people bring these things upon themselves.
It's the fact that they shouldn't have to be overcharged.
and also, would u have paid for it if you didnt have the money? sorry im just trying to prove a point. of cource you wouldnt have
Same applies here.
SC7 i dont really know how old you are, but im guessing your young, because if you were in the real world you'd realise that this is how the world operates, watever you do you do for profit, if your a doctor, shopkeeper, dustbin man, etc.... list goes on.
Way off, not even going to respond to this.
In defence of my soul-sucking avarice (Although I am actually enjoying the naivete of those and their lack of knowledge about human nature, of which I've had much experience. ^_^), this is EBAY! I set what I felt was a Buy-It-Now price that no person would possibly accept unless they were truely desparate. Well, in less that twenty-four hours, I walked away with quite a sum of money. If that makes me a slave to the almighty dollar, whatever. At least a little kid is getting a Wii for Christmas. (And besides, I think I should change my thread title to "Proud to be an ***hole." It's catchy. ^_^)
Look man, I don't hate you, or even dislike you, I'm just not a big fan of what you did. (Sorry again if the original post comes across differently). However, I do like in a sense the cunning move you made, but people are really desperate in the last week before Christmas to do this for their kids, and may cause them a financial struggle for their kids. (Parents will do anything they can for their children, remember that).
He's right... Like in my case. If I didn't have the money, I wouldn't have payed for it. It is overpriced, and five hundred ****ing dollars is a lot to pay, but hell, people aren't FORCED to buy things, and people can pretty much price their console whatever they see fit. Moral values are out of the window in the real world.
No they are not forced to, and they don't have to, but let's think here, it shouldn't have to be like this, and if there were zero moral in this world, then it would really be an even worse hellhole.
nothing wrong with making a little profit. i do it whenever i can, as should everybody. has nothing to do with "the christmas spirit". the christmas spirit doesn't involve spending $500 bucks to get your spoiled kid a video game, so right there it's the buyer's fault.
bottom line: market dictates pricing. this guy did the legwork, probably put cash down for a reservation, and was WITHOUT that cash for some amount of time. he absolutely deserves a return on his investment.
Yes, but to personally expoit someone who really wants it. That seems a little high of a profit.
On a final note here. I don't mean to come across nasty, it's been a rough week for me, I apologize to everyone I offeneded. I'm a little surprised that many of you Wii seekers aren't angered by this. I know I am after doing this with the Wii, and previously, the Xbox 360. I personally stand against this activity, but I don't hate people that do it, to each his own. Remember, as the creator of the Good Shipment Info Thread, I have a goal to prevent this from happening as much as I can, because I really hate seeing honest people who truely want it for them or someone else, having to pay someone else extra for it, because they have more important issues to tackle in their lives. Anyway, I'll end it here for now.
Cheers,
SC7
That crave was just too strong... I need to work on that.