02-07-2007, 08:16 AM
02-07-2007, 09:34 AM
On an alternative thought process...why should anyone in the future want to travel back in time to our time? To what significance does our current period of time contribute? Sure it is proposed to be possible, but obviously no one has found the significance to travel back in time to change the past or it would have trickled through to us (perhaps they allready have and we just assume it was a smart/lucky dude that created X invention/discovery). Maybe there was a significant purpose to (for example) WWII and the holocaust, after all the arms race in WWII and subsequent cold war propelled our technological advances. (Rockets, jets, satellites, microwaves, etc.) It is best to let the past be, as no one can be for certain what the present/future may hold. Hooray philosophy!
Also, I have a hard time completely buying into Einsteins theory at face value, despite having gone over it. Just nothing I can disprove, as I'm not the brightest person to ever have taken college physics.
Also, I have a hard time completely buying into Einsteins theory at face value, despite having gone over it. Just nothing I can disprove, as I'm not the brightest person to ever have taken college physics.
02-07-2007, 11:37 AM
Time travel is possible, just really difficult
Assuming that there is a big bang and big crunch cycle going on
I.e. the universe expands and then reaches a certain point then begins to collapse again.
Such a cycle would prove that time is circular (as eventually it would reach the beginning and start again)
Travelling into the future is as easy as freezing and thawing yourself.
Going back in time is a bit more difficult however. As what you need to do is freeze yourself up until you have reached the other side of the circle then you wait for however long you want to go back in time for and then (the difficult bit) open a wormhole to the other side of the circle, when you reach out you will have skipped the whole crunch thing and be back where you started - the time you waited when you got onto the other side of the circle.
I love theories.
oh... © John Sanderson 2006
Assuming that there is a big bang and big crunch cycle going on
I.e. the universe expands and then reaches a certain point then begins to collapse again.
Such a cycle would prove that time is circular (as eventually it would reach the beginning and start again)
Travelling into the future is as easy as freezing and thawing yourself.
Going back in time is a bit more difficult however. As what you need to do is freeze yourself up until you have reached the other side of the circle then you wait for however long you want to go back in time for and then (the difficult bit) open a wormhole to the other side of the circle, when you reach out you will have skipped the whole crunch thing and be back where you started - the time you waited when you got onto the other side of the circle.
I love theories.
oh... © John Sanderson 2006
02-07-2007, 11:49 AM
D4rkDrago0n Wrote:
Travelling into the future is as easy as freezing and thawing yourself.
Yeah, I do not consider this time travel though. You still are "aging" while being frozen, just at a much different rate. Plus freezing cells destroys the cell walls thus killing off the cell.
I guess my idea of time travel as glorified by stories involves the ability traverse time w/o rendering yourself unconscious or inconpacitated.
02-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Well, you could go faster than the speed of light also, but that's impossible.. right?
02-07-2007, 01:01 PM
So guesses science. One argument I always here about time theory is that looking at star light is looking into the past, as the light that leaves a star takes a long time to reach earth, therefore the star could be burned out and non-existant. So if one can travel instantly faster than the speed of light to say Neptune and get a kickass telescope to see earth, you would technically see yourself before you leave. Does this mean that you traveled back in time? I don't believe so. A jet can outpace it's sound waves, yet it does not claim to be traveling through time. I guess where it gets muddled (for me) is sound is not light, and the duality of light (both wave and particle) is what I guess makes this possible, although I still don't buy it. Sounds needs a medium to exist (it's wave only), light does not.
02-07-2007, 01:40 PM
heres my theory,
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
02-07-2007, 01:51 PM
Brando2600 Wrote:
heres my theory,
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
This thinking hurts my brain. Darn paradox.
#1 Would prove time travel is impossible. (i.e. if the future never happened, how could one attain the technology to go to the past where the future never happened) Although this could possibly work in one part of the string theory. (what they are doing is traveling to an alternate universe, not back in their own time.)
#2 This is true to some reguards, but now you're getting into philosophy. If something is unknown, does it really exist? Just because we labeled something as "time", does that mean it is real?
Like dinosaurs, no one's seen a live dinosaur, yet we have evidence they existed. Or aliens, no one's actually seen a space alien (I believe), yet nobody can prove they did not exist.
02-07-2007, 02:33 PM
about that freezing thing....
does the term 'crystallization' mean anything to you?
does the term 'crystallization' mean anything to you?
02-07-2007, 02:38 PM
yes?
02-07-2007, 02:50 PM
crystallization is not your friend.
do you know what happens to roads and rocks in the season cycle? the water seeps into cracks the rock,freezes and expands, breaking the rock apart, melts, then does it all again next winter. imagine that happening inside your brain when you freeze yourself.
do you know what happens to roads and rocks in the season cycle? the water seeps into cracks the rock,freezes and expands, breaking the rock apart, melts, then does it all again next winter. imagine that happening inside your brain when you freeze yourself.
02-07-2007, 03:09 PM
Harmonica Wrote:
Brando2600 Wrote:
heres my theory,
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
the futre doesnt exist AT ALL yet. so we may get time travel later, but nobody can come here from the future because the future doesnt exist yet.
theroy #2
Time doesnt exist, its just a system we created
This thinking hurts my brain. Darn paradox.
#1 Would prove time travel is impossible. (i.e. if the future never happened, how could one attain the technology to go to the past where the future never happened) Although this could possibly work in one part of the string theory. (what they are doing is traveling to an alternate universe, not back in their own time.)
#2 This is true to some reguards, but now you're getting into philosophy. If something is unknown, does it really exist? Just because we labeled something as "time", does that mean it is real?
Like dinosaurs, no one's seen a live dinosaur, yet we have evidence they existed. Or aliens, no one's actually seen a space alien (I believe), yet nobody can prove they did not exist.
duh? o_o
02-07-2007, 04:01 PM
watch jurassic park. dinosuars were alive for the movie recording session.
02-07-2007, 04:14 PM
Harmonica Wrote:
Plus freezing cells destroys the cell walls thus killing off the cell.
That's why I wrote this...
02-07-2007, 04:16 PM
Brando2600 Wrote:
duh? o_o
Not sure if you mean that what I wrote is common sense or confusing, but we'll just take it as whatever you want. It's hard interpretting the meaning of some text, especially if one is a poor writer, such as myself.
02-07-2007, 04:29 PM
big_al0591 Wrote:
crystallization is not your friend.
do you know what happens to roads and rocks in the season cycle? the water seeps into cracks the rock,freezes and expands, breaking the rock apart, melts, then does it all again next winter. imagine that happening inside your brain when you freeze yourself.
do you know what happens to roads and rocks in the season cycle? the water seeps into cracks the rock,freezes and expands, breaking the rock apart, melts, then does it all again next winter. imagine that happening inside your brain when you freeze yourself.
02-07-2007, 05:28 PM
big_al0591 Wrote:
so, are you saying that fish pie is better than apple pie or blueberry pie, as long as there's tartar sauce in the deal?
Yes, i am saying that cheese is great for partys...
No, wait, well yes, cheese is great for partys, but the answer to saying fish pie is better than apple pie or blueberry pie as long as there's tartar sauce in the deal? As long as it's shaped in the number 32!
02-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Toon324 Wrote:
big_al0591 Wrote:
so, are you saying that fish pie is better than apple pie or blueberry pie, as long as there's tartar sauce in the deal?
Yes, i am saying that cheese is great for partys...
No, wait, well yes, cheese is great for partys, but the answer to saying fish pie is better than apple pie or blueberry pie as long as there's tartar sauce in the deal? As long as it's shaped in the number 32!
Symplyfied: As long as it's shaped in the number 32!
02-07-2007, 05:48 PM
I already new about cryonics, but listen:
even though they can properly freeze someone, they can't bring them back to life, so they are frozen until future technology can bring them back.
even though they can properly freeze someone, they can't bring them back to life, so they are frozen until future technology can bring them back.
02-07-2007, 05:49 PM
is walt disney secretly frozen away, or was that an urban legend?