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A portion of a EWeek interview with Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s Entertainment and Devices Division…

E: So, is Nintendo disrupting things for you, or were you surprised to see them?

RB: I’m actually not—the product has gotten more broad-base acclaim that I would have expected. It’s a very nice product, but it actually has a relatively specific audience and a fairly specific appeal, frankly, based on one feature, which is the controller itself. And the rest of the product is actually not a great product—no disrespect, but … the video graphics on it aren’t very strong; the box itself is kind of underpowered; it doesn’t play DVDs; there are a lot of down-line components [that] aren’t actually that interesting.

In the casual space they’re going to do very well, because the controller is pretty intuitive and the game experience is pretty simple, and Nintendo can produce a lot of those simple game experiences themselves.

The challenge they have is that third parties aren’t going to make much money on this platform because Nintendo is going to make all that money, and their ability to compete with something like a Halo or produce an experience like Madden on their system is going to be tough. They don’t have the graphics horsepower that even Xbox 1 had. So it makes sort of the comparison set a little bit difficult.

So the challenge for us is how do we drive to more casual users, and how do we bring more casual experiences to Xbox and Windows? And the challenge for them is figuring out, “Hey, how do I broaden beyond a casual demographic?” We’ll see how that plays out.

It’s interesting to note that a year ago if somebody had said, “Hey, we won’t be discussing Sony,” that’s an interesting statement, and I think something that frankly hasn’t been written about very much.

E: So, do you feel that Nintendo is a more fierce competitor than Sony?

I think Nintendo and Microsoft are clearly in the driver’s seat on what’s happening in this generation. And they’re different driver’s seats. In a way, … our circle and Sony’s circle overlap I would say 90 percent. Nintendo’s circle and Microsoft’s overlap say 20, 25, 30 percent, something like that. We had people laughing and call it the Wii 360 because you already see a lot of dual-household ownership.

But Sony I think has some real challenges. They’ve got a pricing problem, they have a cost problem, they have a content problem, and they don’t have an online service. But I’m just talking about the psychology of me doing an interview with you as a reporter coming in and not uttering the word Sony without me bringing it up.

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atleast he recongnizes that Nintendo is more of a competitor than Sony, but if 3rd parties aren't making money, why have several picked up produdtion on Wii titles or even created studios devoted to Wii game development? and companies make more money putting a game on the Wii's optical disc rather than the Blu-Ray of the PS3 or the 360. that's why Wii titles are still $50 while 360 are going for $60 more often

yet another desperate attempt to cut the Wii down
nintendo has plenty of stuff to compete with halo. madden was out on wii at launch and it was great. the only difference between wii graphics and 360 graphics is smoother polygons and sharper textures, but only when it's used on a better display. compare any 360 game to twilight princess at 480p and they both have about the same graphical qualities. when 3rd party developers make good games they sell just fine and the 3rd parties make money. the DVD thing is completly pointless. the experiance for ssbb, smg, mp3:c, d:doc, re4:we, and many other wii games is by no means simple. that underpowered white box doesn't explode from overheating either.
Microsoft are just panicking that Nintendo gona wipe the floor with them all! *stops Day Dreaming*

bobo_du_hobo Wrote:
the DVD thing is completly pointless. the experiance for ssbb, smg, mp3:c, d:doc, re4:we, and many other wii games is by no means simple. that underpowered white box doesn't explode from overheating either.


Exactly and Nintendo is trying to appeal to their audience and the audience of casual gamers.

Sony doesn't have an online service? What do you call the Playstation Network then?
Ha!!
I laugh at this!! Maybe if Sony wern't copyers, they could do somthing good for once!! lol
Sony, Wii copy you!
I dunno why you guys are getting worked up about this. If you look outside the fanboy scope, he's right. There is absolutely nothing special about the Wii other than the controller. The online component sucks(and doesn't even exist yet), the graphics so far have been of PSP quality with a few exceptions, there is no HD, and no other bells or whistles. Even Nintendo has made this admitted these things (except for the online part). That is why the system costs less and also that is why it sells more. He's just stating fact.

As far as third-party profitability is concerned, he definitely has a point as well. Historically third-party titles don't sell very well on Nintendo consoles, again with a few exceptions. If you pay attention to sales charts there are usually a large number of Wii and DS titles (or in the past Gamecube or N64) high on the list, but probably 95% of them are Nintendo games. Its not Nintendo's fault that they've built such a grand name for themselves, but it does impair their ability to draw third party support.
I think he made several valid points but I'm so sick of hearing about the Wii not being able to do this and that and ..... It's a game system above all just like the PS3 and 360 SHOULD BE. I'll never use my Wii to surf the net, I'll never use it to listen to MP3s, I'll never use it to watch videos or look at pictures. We (including myself) all have this problem that nowadays we want products that have tons of features, regardless of whether or not we'll actually use them. I gave each of the features it has a try and then my curiosity was done. The 360 and PS3 have Nintendo beat everywhere you look except for where it counts. The fun part. If someone here plays games for another reason besides fun/destressing then let me know.

ManaBurnX Wrote:
I think he made several valid points but I'm so sick of hearing about the Wii not being able to do this and that and .....  It's a game system above all just like the PS3 and 360 SHOULD BE.  I'll never use my Wii to surf the net, I'll never use it to listen to MP3s, I'll never use it to watch videos or look at pictures.  We (including myself) all have this problem that nowadays we want products that have tons of features, regardless of whether or not we'll actually use them.  I gave each of the features it has a try and then my curiosity was done.  The 360 and PS3 have Nintendo beat everywhere you look except for where it counts.  The fun part.  If someone here plays games for another reason besides fun/destressing then let me know.


Well, I gotta admit, I do like the Xbox 360 as a media center extender. Between Vista Ultimate, Zune, and Xbox 360, I can convieniently stream my media the way I want. It's pretty nice, since my 360 is hooked up to a 1080p TV, and 5.1 audio system.

Ah, you have the combo. Then that's not so bad. I've got an Apple iPOD Video, HP Laptop, and Nintendo Wii... That's never gonna work. I'm fine with it though.
I agree with Mana.
ya i dont need all that fancy media stuff

im fine with my wii, stereo, DVD player, and computer Smile

pesticide Wrote:
ya i dont need all that fancy media stuff

im fine with my wii, stereo, DVD player, and computer Smile


Well said young one....
Well said....

I agree with pesticide :]
I do too, and besides, who doesn't already own a stand alone DVD player by now.
My nan?
I fall somewhere between GlueGun and Mana on this.

The Robbie Bach guy is right in many ways, in terms of the two consoles audiences and the appeal of each. And his view of Nintendo lacking a lot of components fits with where he is coming from. The Xbox 360 is an all-inclusive media center, and that's what he would look for in a console, and that's the slant he is looking at the Wii with. So his problems with the Wii seem to stem from that, which is fine, its his opinion, and he's not lying about the system to make the 360 look better like an unnamed 3rd competitor has..

Personally, some of the features the 360 has sound great. The online component, downloadable updates, music, etc... and I'm at times tempted by it. But for me the Wii is perfect. I don't have a great deal of time and money to devote to games, as I have a time consuming occupation and hobby in the arta. So for me, I look for games that are creative in their approach and/or contain characters that I like to revisit regularly.
And as Mana said, these games are fun. And with Nintendo, although not perfect, they can usually follow through.

I'm not entirely sure about the issue of third party developers. But in my experience when they create a good product, they do well. Capcom, as I've always cited, is a primo example. Red Steel and Rayman were also really great for launch titles.

Also: DVD playback, downloadable content and updates, online.. are all on their way.

And even though I use my computer for work a lot, when it comes to movies and music, I still go to the theatres and rent DVDs, I still go to concerts and I buy albums. CD albums and listen to them on my stereo. I'm a bit of an audiophile.
Or maybe I'm just an old soul.
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