so i got my free movies a while back and i watched 3 of them. what i noticed was that the older the movie, the more grainy it was. i thought these movies were supposed to be the epitome of visuals, but then it got me wondering:

how can they turn the visuals from an old movie that wasnt recorded with an HD camera into high-def? or am i just watching an old movie with added, more streamlined, features in a blu-ray disc format? i guess my first question can pertain to HD-DVD too, but i havent watched an hd-dvd movie.

fyi, i am using HDMI and am outputting at 1080p.

i will say that the audio quality on these movies is definitely noticeable.

Maybe movies were recorded with HD cameras all along and compressed for DVD/VHS?

PLOT TWIST :S

Okay,

OLD films, the ones recorded onto real film, can be converted to high-def with ease because the recording has an infinite resolution. All they do is capture it at a higher resolution.

not so old films non-blockbusters were recorded in 4:3 at NTSC/PAL. maybe slightly higher for editing and such, but not HD. these films will be upscaled and put through a series of noise reduction, filtering and shaders to make it look HD, but in the end it'll still be upscaled.

the newish non-HD films will have been recorded at about 16:10 640i/p for use in cinemas and then the same upscaling procedure will occur as before, but the larger resolution will give greater fidelity.

All blockbusters will have been filmed in real film most likely to allow post-production to have the highest resolution available for editing.


and all that jazz

SO are Hollywood beginning to record in High Definition as a standard format now?

greaserlee can you tell us what movies they actually are? I like to go to http://www.dvdtalk.com and check out their reviews, they are very good about telling you the good, bad, and ugly of some movies and are fair for both Blu Ray, HD DVD, and regular DVD movie reviews.

Yeah that would be cool if you could give us the DVD names

beginning?

they've been recording in HD since about '05

Good to know

Yea, that's a good site. I've been there before, and I've noticed a lot of Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs sometimes have audio or video that's not up to par, which is rather surprising.

I have a collection of about 20 next gen movies already, and no time to watch any of them.

I did toss a few in when we got everything hooked up (65" mitsu 1080p, toshiba hd-dvd, sony bluray standalone, etc) and I noticed some graininess on a couple. I hope that is not typical.

the three movies in questions were (in no particular order):

stir of echoes
the devil's rejects
kiss of the dragon

i need to rent a newer movie to see if i find graininess in those too.

This post was last modified: 12-02-2007 12:21 PM by greaserlee.

Stir of Echoes (Blu-ray)-3/5 stars for video and is recommended.

Devil's Rejects (Blu-ray)-4/5 stars for video and is highly recommended.

Kiss of the Dragon (Blu-ray)-1// out of 5 stars for videos and is recommended only for a rent.

All of this came from http://www.dvdtalk.com

hmm. DR seemed more grainy to me than KotD.

i guess it's good to see sony giving away the crappy stuff for free. /sarcasm

This mis-info in this thread is pretty high. Tread lightly.

-"Hollywood" shooting in HD since 2005.

-Certain FILMS being recorded in 4x3 NTSC. (Can you recommend me some good PAL films?)

-Blockbusters shooting in film to allow the highest res for editing. (???..no one cuts/offlines anything in full res)

If you are genuinely interested in the topic and want to look past incorrect and vague generalizations which most people like to parrot but don't understand, research HI DEFINITION TELECINE and TRANSFERS. You'll find some good answers to alot of your questions.

Seriously?

You'd be hard pushed to find a PAL resolution personal camcorder, these days (In the UK)

At the very least it'll do 640i
Most do 720p

i think luben II was being sarcastic.

>_<;

You are correct.

i was given a link at another board where i asked the same question. it's an article that shows Warner Bros. process of converting an old movie, like Blade Runner, into HD. it's a really good read. unfortunately, i dont think theres any way of knowing if the rest of the movie industry goes through a similar process.


Blade Runner on the Cutting Edge - The studio that just remastered the 1982 sci-fi classic shows us how a great high-def disc is made.

300 looks pretty darn good on my ps3 w/ LCD tv. I can't wait to play my harry potter ones on it next. I just got the blu ray trunk with 5 harry potter movies in it!